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	<title>Comments on: So, you have a brand new (make money blogging/online) blog?</title>
	<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/</link>
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		<title>By: Nate Whitehill</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-353</link>
		<author>Nate Whitehill</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-353</guid>
					<description>Great article and SO very true! It may take some hard work - but it is not too late by any means! We WILL be the biggest Google whores of 2009! Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and SO very true! It may take some hard work - but it is not too late by any means! We WILL be the biggest Google whores of 2009! Rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: 45n5</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-354</link>
		<author>45n5</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-354</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the mention Staska!

I made a post about this post at my site:

http://www.45n5.com/permalink/2009-google-whores-and-problogger-splogging.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention Staska!</p>
<p>I made a post about this post at my site:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.45n5.com/permalink/2009-google-whores-and-problogger-splogging.html' rel='nofollow' target="_blank">http://www.45n5.com/permalink/.....gging.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chee Kui</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-355</link>
		<author>Chee Kui</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-355</guid>
					<description>Holla Staska!

Let's call this the habit of highly effective bloggers. Habit #1. Begin with the end in mind. Nice post.
It's never too late to start something

Looking forward to be one of the biggest Google Whores in 2010 :D

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holla Staska!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s call this the habit of highly effective bloggers. Habit #1. Begin with the end in mind. Nice post.<br />
It&#8217;s never too late to start something</p>
<p>Looking forward to be one of the biggest Google Whores in 2010 <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Kriest</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-357</link>
		<author>Rene Kriest</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-357</guid>
					<description>Excellent post, to me a must-read.

"the view from the top is very different then from the bottom"

That´s simply the point. I think it would be an interesting challenge to see if some of the well-known probloggers would make it again to the top nowadays.

They could find out if they used an alias and started right from the beginning again without any promotion by their friends.

Regards,

René</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, to me a must-read.</p>
<p>&#8220;the view from the top is very different then from the bottom&#8221;</p>
<p>That´s simply the point. I think it would be an interesting challenge to see if some of the well-known probloggers would make it again to the top nowadays.</p>
<p>They could find out if they used an alias and started right from the beginning again without any promotion by their friends.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>René</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-358</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-358</guid>
					<description>Interesting take on my post. 

I do not agree with accusing Darren about the splogs. It was certainly not my intention here. 

But, everybody has his own blogging style. And yours seems to be working quite well. 

I may usually side with the other party in the arguments you steer up, but the whole discussion is very interesting and educational. 

E.g. you even got Darren to respond with one of his most open discussions about what worked and what didn't   on his way up.

So keep up a good work. 

&lt;strong&gt;A note to everybody&lt;/strong&gt; - go and read Mark's post and be sure to check the comments section for very informative Darrens take on the  issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on my post. </p>
<p>I do not agree with accusing Darren about the splogs. It was certainly not my intention here. </p>
<p>But, everybody has his own blogging style. And yours seems to be working quite well. </p>
<p>I may usually side with the other party in the arguments you steer up, but the whole discussion is very interesting and educational. </p>
<p>E.g. you even got Darren to respond with one of his most open discussions about what worked and what didn&#8217;t   on his way up.</p>
<p>So keep up a good work. </p>
<p><strong>A note to everybody</strong> - go and read Mark&#8217;s post and be sure to check the comments section for very informative Darrens take on the  issue</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-359</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-359</guid>
					<description>Yeah, we will :)

We just have to keep working hard and doing interesting stuff. 

Perseverance is probably the most important part of blogging success. 

And even if I do not make the list, I would have had a lot of fun along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we will <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We just have to keep working hard and doing interesting stuff. </p>
<p>Perseverance is probably the most important part of blogging success. </p>
<p>And even if I do not make the list, I would have had a lot of fun along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-360</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-360</guid>
					<description>Yep, 

I wouldn't say that getting on BGW list is my endgame, I may have much bigger things in my sights ;) 

But having a goal or example of the potential rewards in sight is an important part of success. However unlikely it seems that we can achieve them. 

Someone said that the best way to eat an elephant is one little bite at a time. 
 
The same can be said about blogging - The best way to get to Technorati 100 is one little post at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that getting on BGW list is my endgame, I may have much bigger things in my sights <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But having a goal or example of the potential rewards in sight is an important part of success. However unlikely it seems that we can achieve them. </p>
<p>Someone said that the best way to eat an elephant is one little bite at a time. </p>
<p>The same can be said about blogging - The best way to get to Technorati 100 is one little post at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-361</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-361</guid>
					<description>Some of them might not make it to the top again, but many probably would. 

You can't take away the knowledge and working habits they accumulated along the way. And that's a very big part of it. 

John Chow is one very good example of this. He made it once with Techzone and used his accumulated knowledge to do that again with his personal blog. 

Darren's Digital Photography School is another example.  Even if his old photography blog and Problogger shelped some, the content and promotion techniques used on DPS stands out on its own and would have done well without additional help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of them might not make it to the top again, but many probably would. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t take away the knowledge and working habits they accumulated along the way. And that&#8217;s a very big part of it. </p>
<p>John Chow is one very good example of this. He made it once with Techzone and used his accumulated knowledge to do that again with his personal blog. </p>
<p>Darren&#8217;s Digital Photography School is another example.  Even if his old photography blog and Problogger shelped some, the content and promotion techniques used on DPS stands out on its own and would have done well without additional help.</p>
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		<title>By: 45n5</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-362</link>
		<author>45n5</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-362</guid>
					<description>I simply said you "questioned" his tactics, not that you accused him of anything, which is how I honestly read your post, no spin.

However, thanks for clarifying your position on my blog, I posted a response there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply said you &#8220;questioned&#8221; his tactics, not that you accused him of anything, which is how I honestly read your post, no spin.</p>
<p>However, thanks for clarifying your position on my blog, I posted a response there.</p>
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		<title>By: Powerful Posts of the Week - April 19th, 2007 &#124; Nate Whitehill dot Com</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-365</link>
		<author>Powerful Posts of the Week - April 19th, 2007 &#124; Nate Whitehill dot Com</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Staska.net - So, you have a brand new (make money blogging/online) blog? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Staska.net - So, you have a brand new (make money blogging/online) blog? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Maki :: Dosh Dosh</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-370</link>
		<author>Maki :: Dosh Dosh</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-370</guid>
					<description>Nice post, Staska. I just read your post on your earnings for 2006. Pretty impressive. :) 

I do think a lot of the make money online bloggers need to move beyond Adsense. Sure, it's idiot proof and truly passive but it relies a lot on heavy traffic flow so most bloggers starting out probably won't benefit from it. 

I'll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports, which are just unverifiable bragging exhibitions created to develop awe amongst newbies.

I can easily tell how good a blogger is at making money online by how his or her ability to drive traffic to their site and how fast they can build a community and reader base.

Having said that, I'll probably be a Google whore myself in 2009, depending on how big my blog becomes by then.. -)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Staska. I just read your post on your earnings for 2006. Pretty impressive. <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do think a lot of the make money online bloggers need to move beyond Adsense. Sure, it&#8217;s idiot proof and truly passive but it relies a lot on heavy traffic flow so most bloggers starting out probably won&#8217;t benefit from it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports, which are just unverifiable bragging exhibitions created to develop awe amongst newbies.</p>
<p>I can easily tell how good a blogger is at making money online by how his or her ability to drive traffic to their site and how fast they can build a community and reader base.</p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;ll probably be a Google whore myself in 2009, depending on how big my blog becomes by then.. -)</p>
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		<title>By: 45n5</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-371</link>
		<author>45n5</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-371</guid>
					<description>Maki is funny.

First Maki says "I just read your post on your earnings for 2006. Pretty impressive." then goes on to say how much he hates earnings reports

"I’ll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports, which are just unverifiable bragging exhibitions created to develop awe amongst newbies."

I don't understand, and what if the blogger isn't earning much, like when I used to report my earnings?  Still only made to inspire awe in newbies, doubtful?

http://www.45n5.com/permalink/october-2005-earnings.html

Sounds like you just have a problem with people earning alot and reporting it?

If you didn't guess I'm FOR bloggers doing earnings reports, love to read them, get inspired by them, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maki is funny.</p>
<p>First Maki says &#8220;I just read your post on your earnings for 2006. Pretty impressive.&#8221; then goes on to say how much he hates earnings reports</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports, which are just unverifiable bragging exhibitions created to develop awe amongst newbies.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand, and what if the blogger isn&#8217;t earning much, like when I used to report my earnings?  Still only made to inspire awe in newbies, doubtful?</p>
<p><a href='http://www.45n5.com/permalink/october-2005-earnings.html' rel='nofollow' target="_blank">http://www.45n5.com/permalink/.....nings.html</a></p>
<p>Sounds like you just have a problem with people earning alot and reporting it?</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t guess I&#8217;m FOR bloggers doing earnings reports, love to read them, get inspired by them, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Maki :: Dosh Dosh</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-372</link>
		<author>Maki :: Dosh Dosh</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 02:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-372</guid>
					<description>Mark,

I'm not sure why you seem so annoyed at me. I haven't got any beef with you or other bloggers reporting their earnings if they do honestly share their knowledge of making money with others. 

I don't like bloggers who seem to only flaunt how they make money in order to attract an audience, but don't really share how they actually got to their current earnings level. 

Or the type of blogger who ignores email questions just because they come from a blogger with a small blog. Or the blogger who only links to people who benefit him or her and ignores other bloggers who write good stuff because they are competition.   

In case you're wondering, I don't think Staska is that kind of blogger so there's really no contradiction if I'm impressed with his earnings. 

I'm sure there's a lot of openings in this comment that you'll to attack so if you'll like to aggressively nitpick and debate about this in detail, please feel free to contact me through my blog. My IM details are there as well. And I'm always online.

I don't want to kick up a ruckus on Staska's blog. Any concerns about my thoughts on this issue can be clarified in private.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you seem so annoyed at me. I haven&#8217;t got any beef with you or other bloggers reporting their earnings if they do honestly share their knowledge of making money with others. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like bloggers who seem to only flaunt how they make money in order to attract an audience, but don&#8217;t really share how they actually got to their current earnings level. </p>
<p>Or the type of blogger who ignores email questions just because they come from a blogger with a small blog. Or the blogger who only links to people who benefit him or her and ignores other bloggers who write good stuff because they are competition.   </p>
<p>In case you&#8217;re wondering, I don&#8217;t think Staska is that kind of blogger so there&#8217;s really no contradiction if I&#8217;m impressed with his earnings. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a lot of openings in this comment that you&#8217;ll to attack so if you&#8217;ll like to aggressively nitpick and debate about this in detail, please feel free to contact me through my blog. My IM details are there as well. And I&#8217;m always online.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to kick up a ruckus on Staska&#8217;s blog. Any concerns about my thoughts on this issue can be clarified in private.</p>
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		<title>By: 45n5</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-374</link>
		<author>45n5</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 02:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-374</guid>
					<description>I wasn't "annoyed" with you or "attacking" you, I was simply offering an alternative opinion to what you said about earnings reports being silly and only motivated by striking awe in newbies.  I thought that was silly.

Maybe I read it wrong.  Thanks for clarifying.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;annoyed&#8221; with you or &#8220;attacking&#8221; you, I was simply offering an alternative opinion to what you said about earnings reports being silly and only motivated by striking awe in newbies.  I thought that was silly.</p>
<p>Maybe I read it wrong.  Thanks for clarifying.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-375</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-375</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do think a lot of the make money online bloggers need to move beyond Adsense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep. Especially now that a lot of good alternatives are available. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports"&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For me it ain't that bad with bloggers. Sure, there are some that brag a lot about their earnings and give nothing but boiler plate advice. But they dissapear into obscurity pretty soon

Now, "get rich quick online, here's how I made a million bucks in a month" affiliate marketers, that bombard my e-mail box daily... These guys really do annoy me   :evil:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll probably be a Google whore myself in 2009&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Welcome to the club  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do think a lot of the make money online bloggers need to move beyond Adsense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep. Especially now that a lot of good alternatives are available. </p>
<blockquote><p>I’ll like to read more about site and traffic building tactics from make money online bloggers instead of silly earning reports&#8221;></p></blockquote>
<p>For me it ain&#8217;t that bad with bloggers. Sure, there are some that brag a lot about their earnings and give nothing but boiler plate advice. But they dissapear into obscurity pretty soon</p>
<p>Now, &#8220;get rich quick online, here&#8217;s how I made a million bucks in a month&#8221; affiliate marketers, that bombard my e-mail box daily&#8230; These guys really do annoy me   <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>I’ll probably be a Google whore myself in 2009</p></blockquote>
<p>Welcome to the club  <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-377</link>
		<author>Staska</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-377</guid>
					<description>Looks like the first fight/misunderstanding on my blog erupted and has been settled while I was sleeping :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the first fight/misunderstanding on my blog erupted and has been settled while I was sleeping <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: 45n5</title>
		<link>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-378</link>
		<author>45n5</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.staska.net/2007/04/17/so-you-have-a-brand-new-make-money-bloggingonline-blog/#comment-378</guid>
					<description>no fighting, just passionate people with different points of view ;-)

But if you are looking for a fight......, lol

just kidding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no fighting, just passionate people with different points of view <img src='http://www.staska.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But if you are looking for a fight&#8230;&#8230;, lol</p>
<p>just kidding</p>
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